I have some questions for you... Two LDS Missionaries came to my door 2 weeks ago and we talked for about an hour but I had no real argument because I really did know what they believed. Once they left I began to research Mormonism which led me to your site and I was startled at what I found. I studied and studied thinking well, they won't come back but this is interesting stuff... then I thought wait I hope they do come back... so I prayed for those guys to back and the Lord delivered...
I took them to dinner last night and we talk for about 2 1/2 hrs. I used alot of the material from your web site... We discussed the nature of God, Jesus Christ, Their book and Joseph Smith. Here's what came about... They claimed multiple gods but also half way agreed with monotheism... I went through all the Isaiah vs with them but they still didn't get it... eventually they wanted to move on because it didn't have anything to do with salvation which I disagreed because we need to establish that we are talking about the same God and the same Jesus... Which by every description they gave was not the God of the Bible which then is not the same Chist of the Bible.... which at one point he said 'then yes we have a different Jesus'
So, Salvation is in Christ alone... The Christ of the Bible... not Christ plus the book of Mormon... I asked what people's means of salvation was between the last apostle and 1830.. what happened when they died... No straight answer... so we discussed that awhile.. What happens when I die.... Round and around.. Here's what the Bible says... show me where it says what you believe... never saw it... but lead us to a question...
He asked "what do think is going to happen to us?" I gently but firmly said "You guys would go to Hell" Yikes that did not sit well at all... Here's my thing I don't want to seem as if I passed Judgement on them by saying that but if they are believing in a different Jesus other than the Bible then that's truth. They allof a sudden were an hour late for some meeting so we left and I took them back... all the way trying to explain grace through faith not by works.. it just didn't register. What are you thoughts...
What, besides prayer, can I do to follow up with them... They gave me a business card with their phone number and I told them that they are always welcome back.... Any thoughts you have would be good...
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Wow, I commend you not only on your boldness, but the fact that you are what we call "a quick study." You went from knowing very little about Mormonism to knowing a lot.
I related to you when you described their question, "What will happen to us?" I have been asked that question by missionaries before. They are sensing that maybe one of us is right and one of us is wrong, so that is a very appropriate question.
It was asked of me by two "returned" Mormon missionaries after I did a meeting in Logan, Utah. What they said was, "Well, even if you are right, wouldn't God honor our honest attempts to get it right?"
I responded: "Well, let's say I _am_ right. That the way of salvation comes from the One True and Living God of the Universe who created us and loves us. We, as a race, despised Him and forsook Him. So He took on flesh and died for our sins. He gave us the Bible to describe Himself, us, our separation from Him, and the way of salvation. Now, say someone like Joseph Smith comes along and rewrites the whole package, inventing a _different_ way of salvation. The question becomes, 'After all God has done, would He honor the false system?'"
I like to equate Mormonism to the Jews of Paul's time and then quote Romans 10:1-4:
Brothers, my heart's desire and prayer to God for the Israelites is that they may be saved. For I can testify about them that they are zealous for God, but their zeal is not based on knowledge. Since they did not know the righteousness that comes from God and sought to establish their own, _they did not submit to God's righteousness_. Christ is the end of the law so that there may be righteousness for everyone who believes.
One who does not submit to God's righteousness is, indeed, lost.
Again, Dalton, I commend you for your efforts to reach those God loves very deeply.