Numerous leaders of the Mormon Church have taught since
the earliest days of the Church that the Hill Cumorah in New York (the very
same Hill Cumorah that Joseph Smith claimed he retrieved the gold plates from
which the Book of Mormon was translated from) is the very same Hill Cumorah
which is mentioned in the Book of Mormon in Mormon 6:2 (
And I, Mormon, wrote an epistle unto the king of the Lamanites, and desired
of him that he would grant unto us that we might gather together our people
unto the land of Cumorah, by a hill which was called Cumorah
, and there we could give them battle. ) where (if
you do the math) at least 230,000 men died in battle using steel weapons
and armor.
However, this battle was about one tenth the size of the battle
which took place at the same exact location approximately 1,000 years
earlier when, according to Ether 15:2 "nearly two millions
" of the Jaredites had their last great battle, also using steel
weapons and armor.
Many self-proclaimed Book of Mormon scholars have told me over
the years that "we don't really know the exact location of the Hill
Cumorah spoken of in the Book of Mormon." The obvious reason they
want to deny that Joseph Smith's Hill Cumorah is the same one that is mentioned
in the Book of Mormon is simple; there is literally not a trace of evidence
to support the claim that 2,230,000 men died in battle using steel weapons
and armor at the tiny hill now owned by the LDS Church in the State of
New York called Cumorah.
However, you will see by the following quotes that many Mormon
Church leaders have taught (and continue to teach) that over 2,230,000
men did indeed die at the Hill Cumorah in New York.
"The great and last battle, in which several hundred thousand
Nephites perished was on
the hill Cumorah, the same hill from which
the plates were taken by Joseph Smith, the boy about whom I spoke
to you the other evening." (Talk given by Apostle Orson Pratt, Feb.
11, 1872
Journal of Discourses Vol. 14, pg. 331)
"These records were carried by Ether from the hill Ramah, afterwards
called Cumorah, where the Jaredites were destroyed, as well
as the Nephites." (Talk given by Apostle Orson Pratt, May 18, 1873
Journal of Discourses Vol. 16, pg. 50
"Thirty-six years prior to this time his nation was destroyed
in in what we term
the State of New York, around about a hill, called
by that people the Hill of Cumorah, when many hundreds of thousands
of the Nephites-men, women and children, fell, during the greatest battle
that they had had with the Lamanites." (Talk given by Apostle Orson
Pratt, Aug. 25, 1878
Journal of Discourses Vol. 20, pg. 62)
"It will be, next Thursday night, 54 years since the Prophet
Joseph Smith, then but a lad, was permitted by the angel of the Lord
to take the gold plates of the Book of Mormon from
the hill Cumorah,
as it was called in ancient times, located in the State of New York.
" (Talk given by Apostle Orson Pratt, Sept. 18, 1881
Journal of Discourses
Vol. 22, pg. 224)
"Finally, they became so utterly wicked, so fully ripened for
destruction, that one branch of the nation, called the Nephites, gathered
their entire people around
the hill Cumorah, in the State of New
York , in Ontario County; and the Lamanites, the opposite army,
gathered by millions in the same region. The two nations were four
years in gathering their forces, during which no fighting took place;
but at the end of that time, having marshalled all their hosts, the fighting
commenced, the Lamanites coming upon the Nephites, and destroying all
of them, except a very few, who had previously deserted over to the Lamanites."
(Talk given by Apostle Orson Pratt, April 6, 1874
Journal of Discourses
Vol. 17, pg. 24)
"The passages which I have quoted from the Book of Mormon
and the more extended discussion of this subject by Elder B. H. Roberts
which was published in The Deseret News of March 3, 1928, definitely
establish the following facts: That the Hill Cumorah, and the Hill Ramah
are identical; that it was around this hill that the armies of both the
Jaredites and Nephites, fought their great last battles; that it was
in this hill that Mormon deposited all of the sacred records which had been
entrusted to his care by Ammaron, except the abridgment which he had made
from the plates of Nephi, which were delivered into the hands of his' son,
Moroni. We know positively that it was in this hill that Moroni deposited
the abridgment made by his father, and his own abridgment of the record
of the Jaredites, and that it was from this hill that Joseph Smith obtained
possession of them. " (President Anthony W. Ivins, Conference Report,
April 1928-Morning Session)
"Cumorah, the artificial hill of north America, is well
calculated to stand in this generation, as a monument of marvelous works
and wonders. Around that mount died millions of the Jaredites; yea,
there ended one of the greatest nations of this earth. In that day, her
inhabitants spread from sea to sea, and enjoyed national greatness and
glory, nearly fifteen hundred years. -- That people forsook the Lord and
died in wickedness. There, too, fell the Nephites, after they had
forgotten the Lord that bought them. There slept the records of age after
age, for hundreds of years, even until the time of the Lord." (The Latter-day
Saints' Messenger and Advocate, Vol.2, No.2, p.221)
"The hill, which was known by one division of the ancient peoples
as Cumorah, by another as Ramah,
is situated near Palmyra in the
State of New York ." (Apostle James E. Talmage,
Articles of Faith
, chapter 14)
"
It is known that the Hill Cumorah where the Nephites were
destroyed is the hill where the Jaredites were also destroyed.
This hill was known to the Jaredites as Rama. It was approximately near
to the waters of Ripliancum, which the Book of Ether says, "by interpretation,
is large, or to exceed all." Mormon adds: "And it came to pass
that we did march forth to the land of Cumorah, and we did pitch our tents
round about the hill Cumorah; and it was in a land of many waters, rivers,
and fountains; and here we had hope to gain advantage over the Lamanites."
"
It must be conceded that this description fits perfectly
the land of Cumorah in New York, as it has been known since the visitation
of Moroni to the Prophet Joseph Smith, for the hill is in the proximity
of the Great Lakes and also in the land of many rivers and fountains.
Moreover,
the Prophet Joseph Smith himself is on record, definitely
declaring the present hill called Cumorah to be the exact hill spoken
of in the Book of Mormon.
"Further, the fact that all of his associates from the beginning
down have spoken of it as the identical hill where Mormon and Moroni
hid the records, must carry some weight. It is difficult for a reasonable
person to believe that such men as Oliver Cowdery, Brigham Young, Parley
P. Pratt, Orson Pratt, David Whitmer, and many others, could speak frequently
of the Spot where the Prophet Joseph Smith obtained the plates as the Hill
Cumorah, and not be corrected by the Prophet, if that were not the fact.
That they did speak of this hill in the days of the Prophet in this
definite manner is an established record of history...." (Joseph Fielding
Smith,
Doctrines of Salvation , Vol.3, Bookcraft, 1956, p.232-43.)
"In the western part of the state of New York near Palmyra
is a prominent hill known as the “hill Cumorah.” On July twenty-fifth
of this year, as I stood on the crest of that hill admiring with awe the
breathtaking panorama which stretched out before me on every hand, my
mind reverted to the events which occurred in that vicinity some twenty-five
centuries ago—events which brought to an end the great Jaredite nation
.
[Editor's Note: About 20 short paragraphs later this speaker
says the following]
"This second civilization to which I refer, the Nephites
, flourished in America between 600 B.C. and A.D. 400. Their civilization
came to an end for the same reason, at the same place, and
in the same manner as did the Jaredites’" (Talk given by President
Marion G. Romney in General Conference, October 4, 1975, Ensign
Nov. 1975 pg. 35)
Apostle LeGrand Richards, in A Marvelous Work and a Wonder,
chapter 7, also stated that Cumorah is in New York.
"Both the Nephite and Jaredite civilizations fought their
final great wars of extinction at and near the Hill Cumorah (or Ramah
as the Jaredites termed it),
which hill is located between Palmyra and
Manchester in the western part of the State of New York.
"Joseph Smith, Oliver Cowdery and many of the early brethren, who were
familiar with all the circumstances attending the coming forth of the
Book of Mormon in this dispensation, have left us a pointed testimony as
to the identity and location of Cumorah or Ramah
."(Apostle Bruce
R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, page 174-175, Bookcraft 1966)
"This time it will have to do with so important a matter
as a war of extinction of two peoples, the Nephites and the Jaredites, on
the self same battle site, with the same 'hill' marking the axis of military
movements. By the Nephites this 'hill' was called the 'Hill Cumorah,' by
the Jaredites the 'Hill Ramah'; it was that same 'hill,' in which the Nephite
records were deposited by Mormon and Moroni, and from which Joseph Smith
obtained the Book of Mormon, therefore the 'Mormon Hill,' of today—since
the coming forth of the Book of Mormon—near Palmyra, New York. (B.H.
Roberts, Studies of the Book of Mormon, p.277)
In 1990 the office of the First Presidency of the
LDS Church stated that Cumorah is in New York:
Click here to see an image of the original
letter
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The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints
Office of the First Presidency
Salt Lake City, Utah 84150
October 16, 1990
Bishop Darrel L. Brooks
Moore Ward
Oklahoma City Oklahoma South Stake
1000 Windemere
Moore, OK 73160
Dear Bishop Brooks:
I have been asked to forward to you for
acknowledgment and handling the enclosed copy of a letter to President
Gordon B. Hinckley from Ronnie Sparks of your ward. Brother Sparks
inquired about the location of the Hill Cumorah mentioned in the Book
of Mormon, where the last battle between the Nephites and Lamanites took
place.
The Church has long maintained, as attested
to by references in the writings of General Authorities, that the Hill
Cumorah in western New York state is the same as referenced in the Book
of Mormon.
The Brethren appreciate your assistance
in responding to this inquiry, and asked that you convey to Brother
Sparks their commendation for his gospel study.
Sincerely yours,
(signed)
F. Michael Watson
Secretary to the First Presidency
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The facts seem to indicate that the official stance of the LDS Church
is that the Hill Cumorah in New York is the site of two major
Book of Mormon battles which resulted in a combined body count of approximately
2,230,000 men, women and children. Considering the archaeological
gold mine this place must be it's too bad the Church doesn't at least
turn the site over to National Geographic to start some digging and recovery
work on what must be the burial site of millions of bones and tons of
primitive early American weaponry. Yeah, right.